7DP3DT - 12DP Trigger
Okay Thalia. I hear you. It's early to be testing, but really, it's not that early. That is, if the BetaBase's values are to be trusted. More on this entertaining line of thought in just a second.
The BetaBase asks women who've had successful pregnancies (success means a heart beat was detected) to enter in their beta values for the number of days past ovulation that they tested at. It further breaks down data for singleton and multiple pregnancies. The problem with this data is that unless you're doing a medicated cycle with a trigger, you can't know the "exact day" you ovulate. You can get pretty damned close with BBT and LH pee sticks, but it's not totally precise.
On the BetaBase, days past ovulation is considered to be equal to the day of egg retrieval. In an IVF retrieval, a patient injects HCG and has her eggs aspirated 36 hours later. At 38 to 40 hours the follicles would naturally erupt. Hence, chemically induced ovulation. So since I retrieved last Tuesday, today being Friday puts me at 10 days past ovulation, or retrieval as it would be in my case.
Now looking at the BetaBase, and realizing that the data may be dubious, the first entry is for day 10. Here, let me just recreate the table here:
Days Past Ovulation | Median HCG Level | Lowest HCG Level Reported | Highest HCG Level Reported | Number of women reporting a number for this day |
---|---|---|---|---|
10 | 12 | 3 | 103 | 78 |
11 | 27 | 2 | 152 | 332 |
12 | 47 | 2 | 208 | 735 |
13 | 77 | 4 | 575 | 1248 |
14 | 117 | 3 | 2088 | 2039 |
15 | 166 | 3 | 2088 | 2499 |
16 | 247 | 5 | 2744 | 2703 |
17 | 366 | 5 | 4591 | 2749 |
18 | 541 | 7 | 6234 | 2643 |
19 | 786 | 16 | 6164 | 2479 |
20 | 1131 | 41 | 10000 | 2259 |
21 | 1632 | 41 | 16224 | 2005 |
22 | 2223 | 58 | 19861 | 1707 |
23 | 3166 | 17 | 22500 | 1497 |
24 | 4417 | 144 | 28000 | 1289 |
25 | 5791 | 218 | 36984 | 1084 |
26 | 7308 | 290 | 36924 | 917 |
27 | 9193 | 351 | 41625 | 762 |
28 | 11886 | 429 | 53812 | 659 |
29 | 14687 | 440 | 73973 | 551 |
30 | 17461 | 539 | 131472 | 467 |
The first line is where we're at today. The median HCG level for today is 12. Half of the women's data falls below 12 and the other half above 12. I'll agree that today's too early to be distraught. But yesterday after I'd posted about how white that pee stick looked, I went back and took a second look and it actually looked a bit better than the previous day's. I had hope for a few hours yesterday that today I'd see an even darker line. No such luck.
Here's the breakdown of HCG levels for today:
Day 10* -- 211 Single Pregnancies Recorded
Beta range (Number of Pregnancies in this range)
4 - 6 (11) <---I am here
6 - 10 (15) <---Or here
10 - 16 (30) <---Or here
16 - 26 (45) <---Or here. Anything else would test positive.
26 - 43 (53)
43 - 69 (31)
69 - 112 (13)
112 - 180 (6)
180 - 290 (4)
290 - 467 (0)
467 - 752 (2)
752 - 1210 (1)
Very interestingly...they say the "median beta" for day 10 is a value of 12. But looking at the data for day 10 you realize that it would be IMPOSSIBLE for 12 to be the median given the data. Their computations are simply incorrect. The beta median for today would be more along the lines of 26. So it's actually worse than I thought. Unless, of course, they're just serving up bad data all around. Possible. Entirely possible.
I'll keep retesting each morning as usual, as per Dr. B's recommendations. I'm sure I'll be quite mad by Tuesday.
Labels: IVF3 Take 3, The Hell that IVF Is
Comments on "7DP3DT - 12DP Trigger"
Man oh man... what a huge quantity of data to sort through.
I can only speak from my experience, but I can say that my first beta with Tiny Boy was 15 at 12 DPO. DB's office told me it was an "inconclusive" result. We all know now that they sure were wrong about that.
I'm still hoping that you get that second line over the weekend!
hmm, yes, but there are only 211 data points in there, not exactly convincing, no? Plus the research that was done on miscarriage says that healthy pregnancies implant anywhere between day 5 and day 10. The bloomin embryo might only have implanted yesterday, give it a break, yes?
Mad by Tuesday? -- I'm mad everyday with this IF crapola. I'm sorry there isn't a stinking second line blinding you. I think the beta base may be off. I find that if there is any question of one part of the data then the whole thing can't be trusted. GIGO and all! Hang on until Tuesday.
Thinking of you today.